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	[ 68420 ]	ジャイロってなんじゃいろ？ by たにおさん
	03月10日(土)01時37分
	さて、松坂のメジャーデビューと同時に沸き起こる米国でのジャイロ論争。そんなことにはさておき、日本国内でのジャイロボーラーについて、勝手気ままに方って生きたいものです。やはり左右でのジャイロといへば茂野と眉村って漫画かい！！！ただ、９０年代のロッテのエース、黒木はジャイロを投げていたと思います。いつも見ていて、「何で打てないの」と思うＰでしたしね。ただ、彼はそれをスライダーに応用してしまった。彼が某ＴＶ番組で彼のスライダーの解説をしていた時の投げ方はジャイロになる投げ方だったと記憶しています。それゆえに余計打たれなくなり、それでいて彼は投手生命を失ったと。。。あと、ヤクルトの伊藤智仁。あの切れのよさはそしてあの投げ方。ジャイロッぽさが伺えます。中日の山本昌なんかもその系統に入るんじゃないでしょうか。しかも彼は二つのジャイロを使っているんですよ。速球と、スクリューの二つのジャイロを。昨年やっとその域に達したのですよ。と、まあ勝手に書いてきましたが、東尾や北別府とかもいわゆる「ジャイロっぽい」球は投げていたと思うんですよ。もっと昔でいえば江夏とか。（実際にＴＶとかでもオンタイムで見たことのない投手についてはコメントできません。）さて、松坂。うーん、かれは恐ろしいですねえ。「彼はジャイロを投げるのか？」投げた事はある、と思います。高校時代は、ジャイローボーラーだったんでしょう。僕の中では彼の一番凄い時代は、高校三年生の夏なんですよ。金属バットの打球を、あそこまで完璧に詰まらせてゴロに討ち取る投球というのをそれまで見たことがなかったものでね。木のバットでも、あそこまではなかなか。

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	[ 68419 ]	Ｄ平田のバッティングについて by たにおさん
	03月10日(土)01時16分
	キャンプから練習試合と見てきましたが神主打法は駄目ですね。逆に高校生の時の打法に戻して正解だったと思います。ぼかあ、昔から（過去ログ参照）平田のフルスイングはノリのフルスイングに似ているといってきているんだ。いいお手本が出来たと思う。なんかねえ、神主やってる時、凄く右肩が「極まっちゃって」るんだよねえ。あれじゃまともなスイングは出来ないよ。自分のバッティングを取り戻して、早く一軍に上がってきて欲しい。

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	[ 68418 ]	セリーグ予想　２ by たにおさん
	03月10日(土)01時12分
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	[ 68417 ]	セリーグ予想 by たにおさん
	03月10日(土)00時55分
	１位…阪神タイガース　井川の穴は小島が埋めます。さらに鳥谷が３割３０本に迫る活躍をすると期待。なんだかんだいっても、打線は強力です。２位…中日ドラゴンズ　今年こそは川上がへばりそう。でもそれでもやはり投手力は良い。あと、落合監督が結構若手を使ってきそうなのでそのあたりが１位になれない要因になると見た。３位…読売ジャイアンツ　今年も戦力的には結構いけるはずなんですがねえ。。。はっきり言って、一軍クラスのチームが２チーム作れますよ。ただねえ、帯に短し襷に長し的な選手が好手共に多いため、今年も指揮官は頭を悩ませるでしょう。４位…ヤクルトスワローズ　外人３人を並べるインチキ打線は今年も健在。宮出と武内の成長に期待したいです。５位…横浜ベイスターズ　ポテンシャルは高いチームなんですが、大矢監督ってあんまり、うーん、どうだかなあ、って感じです。まあ巨人戦は面白そうだけどね。６位…広島カープ　今年は台風の目になるはずだったのにいぃ。いきなりダグラス開幕絶望はきついんじゃないでしょうか。ただ、結構復活している投手も多いので、侮れませんが。打線は、、、ケガさえなければ強力なのではないでしょうか。さて、プレーオフ。ＴＤＧの決戦ですがどこも決め手にかけますな。ただ、この組み合わせだと結構盛り上がると思います。イヤ、マジになりますよ、絶対。今馬鹿にしている虎ファンもドラファンもＧフォースさんも。そのときになったら絶対マジになるから。

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	[ 68416 ]	ワールドシリーズ予想 by たにおさん
	03月10日(土)00時38分
	ズバリ！！！パイレーツＶＳレッドソックス最終戦は桑田ＶＳ松坂の甲子園優勝投手同士の投げあい。。。なんて、夢ですな。。。

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	[ 68415 ]	岩村 by 野球ファンさん
	03月10日(土)00時11分
	岩村選手、いくらなんでものん気すぎるでしょ。「僕は３年契約、３年で打てばいいのかな、というぐらいでやりたい」ほぼ本気で投げるメジャー流のフリー打撃で1.2kgのマスコットバットで打てるはずがないでしょ。打てない言い訳を作る姿はみっともない。ヤクルト時代は禁煙を云う古田監督に対し、ヘビースモーカーの岩村選手はあてつけに監督の前でタバコをふかしていたとも聞く。もっと中身から変わる必要があるんじゃないか？

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	[ 68409 ]	長島名誉監督 by 匿名希望さん
	03月09日(金)16時55分
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	[ 68408 ]	無題 by 匿名希望さん
	03月09日(金)16時31分
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